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Local Party Chairs React to Romney's Choice for Running Mate

Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney announced Saturday he has selected Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan as his choice for Vice President.

 

News broke early Saturday morning that Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney selected Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan as his Vice Presidential running mateaccording to a Fox News report.

Ryan, best known for his proposed budget that calls for an overhaul of Medicare, is considered a rising star in the GOP.

Romney made the official announcement at a campaign stop in Norfolk, Va., calling Ryan "an intellectual leader of the Republican Party."  

What do you think of Romney's choice of running mate? Take our poll or tell us in the comments below.

Pennsylvania Republican leaders praised Romney's choice of running mate.

"I congratulate Paul Ryan on being selected to join Mitt Romney on the Republican Presidential ticket," said Rob Gleason, chairman of the Republican Party of Pennsylvania, in a statement released following the announcement. "Pennsylvanians will be well served by a Romney-Ryan team in a White House that can finally shut the door on President Obama’s four years of high unemployment, out-of-control spending, and usher in a new era of American prosperity. Pennsylvania will be first in line to send Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan to the White House when we deliver our 20 electoral votes this November."

“Quite simply, President Obama has failed," continued Gleason. "The unemployment rate has now been above 8 percent for 42 straight months. Friday’s jobs report illustrates how Obama has failed to fix the economy and meet his own standards: He promised his massive $831 billion stimulus would create millions of jobs and bring unemployment down to around 5.5 percent by today. Most staggering of all, the real unemployment rate is 15 percent! That means that 15 percent of Americans either can’t find a job, full-time work or have given up even trying to find a job. That is this President’s legacy and the reason Pennsylvanians are going to vote for the Romney-Ryan ticket."

Pennsylvania Democrats also issued a statement on Romney's choice.

"Mitt Romney's selection of Paul Ryan proves once again that he has the wrong agenda for middle class Pennsylvanians," said Pennsylvania Democratic Party Chairman Jim Burn in the release. "Paul Ryan shares Mitt Romney's commitment to helping the wealthy at the expense of the middle class. Ryan is the author of a budget plan that will increase taxes for the middle class and end Medicare as we know it, all to fund tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. The Romney-Ryan agenda will cut investments in education, clean energy, and innovation that will help our economy grow while returning to the same failed trickle down economic policies of the past. The Romney-Ryan budget plan will cost America over 1 million jobs while cutting key investments in middle class programs like Head Start and veterans health care. Mitt Romney's choice of Paul Ryan has made it clear that he will abandon the middle class and seniors and take us back to the same failed policies of the past that hurt middle class Pennsylvanians."

 

  • Does Mitt Romney's choice of Paul Ryan as a running mate make you more or less likely to vote for the GOP ticket?

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Related Topics: Election, Gop, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, and Vice Presidential Candidate 2012

Chuck

7:21 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

The most striking difference between these two statements is that the one by Mr. Gleason states FACTS. The one by Mr. Burn states INNUENDO. Mr. Burn: please state some facts.

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RosiesDad

11:48 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Facts devoid of context. But to some, context is irrelevant.

Here's what I would like to hear. Romney and Ryan both talk about how they want to simplify the tax code and reduce all rates to make it more fair. But to date, neither has been willing to offer specifics on how they would do this. (Which makes it impossible to figure out how what they would like to do affects me, or anyone else, for that matter.) So what I would like to hear from them are some specifics. They want to reduce the top rate to about 25%. How are they going to do that and keep the package revenue neutral? What deductions go away? How will that affect the average income earner? The working poor? The wealthy?

In the absence of specifics, I don't know how you could vote for them. Because it will always seem like they are hiding something. Until it's too late.

Joe Melchiorre

9:20 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Bye, Bye, Bari & Plugs!! REMEMBER in NOVEMBER!!

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Karen

9:42 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Voters don't elect the VP, and they won't elect Romney, either.

The choice of Paul Ryan, an extreme radical and architect of the GOP plan to destroy, and completely change Medicare while giving huge tax breaks to billionaires and corporations is tantamount to flipping the middle finger at us.

Does anyone think that seniors (or anyone with common sense, for that matter) will march to the polls to elect the pair who have promised to destroy a much needed support system?

Romney losing in November was a given due to the electoral college and other reasons and just guaranteed a landslide win for Obama.

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Lorbee

6:24 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

I suggest you take some time to research and stop listening to Debbie Wasserman and stop buying into the claim that Ryan wants to "change Medicare." Medicare is going to crash and burn, all by itself, going on as it is right now. Educate yourself before you speak and perpetuate these liberal mantras. This is so typical of what we can expect, just more of the same. Are you even aware of obamacare's impact already on Medicare? How do you think obamacare is being funded? Typical kneejerk foolishness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPxMZ1WdINs

Joe Melchiorre

9:49 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Karen keep drinking the kool ade & the BS of the talking points. Deal with the facts, not the innuendo. Bari & Plugs have a reason to not deal with their record, they have done nothing, so they go after folks & their families with personal attacks.
REMEMBER in NOVEMBER!!!

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Lorbee

6:26 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Amen. The liberal machine is going to keep pumping that kool aid into the Karens of the world, Joe.

Edward B. Basner

10:00 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

The choice of Paul Ryan for Republican VP makes a strong statement of what direction their national gov. will take if Republicans win. The citizens of this country have a huge decision to make. Will the 1% rule the 99% or visa versa?

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Moe

10:17 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Better than the direction it is going now with Chairman Omao at the helm.

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Chuck

10:29 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

The 1% vs. 99% is a canard. There will always be a group at the top that has more than the others, and there will always be a group at the bottom that has less than the others. This is true even in communist societies. The difference is how well those below the top fare. They fare better in a free society than in a less free society. (Think South Korea vs. North Korea.)

The question shouldn't revolve around 1% vs. 99%, it should be about how well does the country perform as a whole. Free markets work to improve the lives of more people than non-free markets. The more government intervention to interfere with the free market the poorer we all become.

Karen

10:47 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Talk about personal "things", all I needed to learn about Romney's character came early, but I guess this is a b.s. point, too, JM. I believe anyone who takes part in barbequing a dog displays some sadistic and sickening mental abberations. Apparently Romney has no concern for his family pet because recently his dog rode 1200 miles on the top of his car in a cage. We want this type of person as president?

Do you collect Social Security? Do you receive Medicare? Will you just hold your nose and vote Romney because he's the "Republican" candidate? Better to stay home and pray your peers will look at the issues with an unbiased eye and make an informed decision before we put our future and that of senior citizens at risk.

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Lorbee

6:32 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

No, karen. It's much more important to focus on Romney's dog than the fact that we have a socialist muslim hell-bent on completely ruining America with zero regard for the rights of Americans or for our constitution. That is how mindless and silly your statements are. But what else can I expect of an obama lover to look at equally silly things and grasp at straws, when he has no record on which to run. He has to focus on silly things. You represent him perfectly and exemplify exactly why people are losing their homes, have no jobs, no health insurance...YOUR statements explain exactly why the US is in this predicament.

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Morgan King

1:17 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

Lorbee, that whole 'Socialist Muslim' canard has got to die. It's ridiculous, and just makes the people say it seem ignorant. First off - being a Socialist and being a Muslim are totally Constitutionally valid characteristics for a US President. Do you have any idea what Socialism actually is? Because Obama is so far from it, it would be obvious if you did.

When my wife an I lived in Ireland, for a brief while in 2008, the nearest pub had a local Socialist Party meeting in the back room - I'll note that this was in the run up to the election when he was even more Liberal - and one night they had a few speakers come in for an event called "Obama: Hype or Hope?" - well, as Americans, that sounded worth sitting in on. They were a group of smart people, who knew a lot about global politics and political philosophy, and do you know what their consensus was? That he's way too Conservative for them to possibly support. For whatever that's worth, the Socialists of South Dublin didn't think he was remotely Socialist enough for them.

And, as far as Muslim goes - what, at all, would indicate that he's shown any sort of legal favoritism towards that particular religion during the last 4 years? He's pretty obviously a Christian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myQx7JKM0ns
I'd it prefer he wasn't - maybe we could finally get some peace, understanding, and love for our neighbors if it wasn't already assumed of our leaders, because of a label they wear, but by their actions.

Kristen Michaels

2:16 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

No voters believe that things will get any better if Obama is re-elected. In fact, most feel it will get worse. This includes most Democrats. No, not the paid protesting class or the rich democrat elites, but the average Democrat voter. Obama has been a divisive disaster. He is constantly pitting one group of citizens against another. For two years he got 100% of what he wanted and focused on the wrong thing. At the end of 2010 he ignored his own bipartisan deficit reform commission, extended the Bush tax cuts for a second time, saying the economy was too weak to raise ANY taxes, then spent the remaining time campaigning against them. His last three budgets have been defeated by bipartisan lopsided majorities. In fact, they have not received one vote. The Democrat Senate has not even passed a budget in three years. If they were held to the same standards that they want to hold Wall Street and banks, they would be in jail for dereliction of duty. All Obama has managed to do is divert taxpayer dollars to his politically connected elites. Forget the union man. If you are not extremely wealth and willing to pay to play or on welfare, Obama does not care about you. At least with Romney/Ryan we can have an adult, serious discussion about the nations fiscal health and some bipartisan sanity will be restored to DC.

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RosiesDad

2:34 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

No voters who pay attention believe things will get better as long as the US Senate has the procedural filibuster.

Most voters believe things will get worse regardless of which party is in power.

Obama extended the Bush tax cuts because Congressional Republicans held the country hostage. Extending the tax cuts was part of a deal that funded the government and got the START treaty ratified. Oh and by the way...Senate Republicans would have blocked the recommendations of Simpson Bowles.

Don't know if you've noticed this, Kristen, but every president diverts money to politically connected elites. Like the defense industry. And the banks. And Wall Street. And Big Agriculture. Think this will be different under Romney/Ryan? Guess again.

Bear in mind, too, that Paul Ryan signed off on the disastrous Bush economic policies that took a huge projected surplus and turned it into a huge actual deficit. And set the table for the recession of 2008. (Yes, Bush had Republican majorities in the House from 2001-06 and for much of the same period in the Senate. And unfortunately, the Dems in the Senate did not have the stomach for obstruction that Mitch McConnell does.)

Read what I wrote above: I want to see/hear details. Not grand visions. Details.

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Karen

3:09 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

So, you would knowingly vote for a man with dubious, no, deplorable character traits and would destroy and take your parents or grandparents Medicare, and focus on tax breaks for the wealthiest among us?

If a guy has the wherewithal to barbeque a dog and subject his own pet to 60 mph winds for 1200 miles how concerned is he going to be about you?

Go right ahead and vote for him and watch our country return to the same good old boy bush administration policies which bought our country to it's knees.

I believe there really should be a history/voter test before people are eligible to vote.

*facepalm*

Ike

2:52 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

No voters believe that things will get any better if Obama is re-elected,OR if Mitt is elected, so what does that leave us with? Trouble ,,DEEP DEEP trouble!

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Ike

2:55 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

But you gota love the ADS. Not really , it like two little kids. They should only be allowed to say what they would do , atleast a little bit. You only hear how bad he other guy is.. Darn one has Mitt killing someone . Not thats not nice.

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RosiesDad

3:26 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Ike: I agree completely. Today's political contests are more like toddlers fighting at the playground.

We get no respect for being adults who can understand complicated problems and how the candidates would address them. Instead, it's just one guy throwing mud at the other and then the other guy throwing it back. Romney ran the nastiest primary campaign in recent memory. (Don't believe me; go read what his opponents--Gingrich, Santorum, Perry, etc. said about it at the time.) And Obama is going to "fight fire with fire."

One thing you know for sure is that it will not be a detail oriented campaign.

Karen

3:18 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Good job, RosiesDad. Facts are important. History is important. Discernment and wisdom are in short supply among those who will be queing up in November.

Mitt is deliberately vague on details. A few buzz words here and there to attract the few who won't be voting for Obama, and hope the ostrich-with-head-in-the-sand stupidity of the average, partisan voter will be enough to garner some votes. No promises made, none to keep.

Ryan on the ticket sends one message. A middle finger flashed to the middle class.

I can just see all the senior citizens lining up to vote for that ticket....sigh.

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RosiesDad

3:29 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Karen: At this point, I believe he is the lesser of two evils, no longer do I believe that he is "Change You Can Believe In." No Wall Street banksters in prison, didn't close Gitmo, no single payer option, caved to Republican ransom demands to extend the Bush tax cuts and again over raising the debt limit. Yes, there were tough choices but I believe he has proved himself to be more of a political pragmatist than someone who is going to greatly change the way things are done inside the Beltway.

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Lorbee

6:34 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

You just described yourself perfectly, karen. an ostrich with their head in the sand stupid partisan voter.

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Paul H

9:31 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

You are aware that Romney is no longer at Bain?

I missed any mention in the article that the state of Illinois is an economic disaster. That could not not possibly have anything to do with a Dutch company moving to China?

Really? This is an attempt to prove what?

Karen

6:59 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Lorbee, no need to drag Debbie in here. All we have to do is listen to the two Republican candidates vowing to destroy Medicare. What don't you understand about that fact? The GOP is in a full attack mode against women, the middle class, gays, the elderly, disenfranchised voters via the ID law, and probably 9/10ths of the rest. You agree with their war on every one but the rich?

Our country, the middle class, and our senior citizens will not survive a return to the past practices of the bush administration. Romney says he wants to give Americans more choices. B.S. If they can't afford healthcare now, I guarantee more choices under his "plan" will only drive the costs and make even more money for the 1%.

Although we haven't heard it used much recently don't think for one minute that the "new world order" is gone. The USA is evolving into a caste system between the haves and have nots with the middle class dwindling. (Thanks, bush.)

Mittens scares me and perhaps we should all mentally prepare for what may be a full reveal of a dystopian future for America on the outside chance he would actually win.

Pray.

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Karen

7:10 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Lorbee, I'll stick around a little while longer to counter your remarks.

Reminding you that Mitt barbequed a dog must, well, make you a wee bit unsettled. That fact should scare you. It speaks of character. Questions. Would you barbeque a dog? Was it alive when it was smoking on a....wait. These were rich kids. Was it an electric rotisserie or a stick? Should make you sick to your stomach that an innocent animal died in that way. Don't discount that abuse.

We are in the state we are in due to a Republican who should have never run for office. bush is the worst president in the history of the United States and he and his administration policies bought our country to it's knees.

Which is where we should all be, on our knees and thanking God that McCain and whatshername didn't get elected and that Obama is....trying to right the wrongs of the past.

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Paul H

8:17 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

Karen - you are misinformed. Romney did not barbeque a dog. Check your facts. In 1959 a current fundraiser for Romney was supposedly involved in such an event - not Romney. If you want to stay on dogs then why do you avoid the fact that Obama ate dog? - it is in his book.

Bush was not good, but far from the worst. Carter and Obama have that honor by a great distance.

You also complain that Romney wants to cut medicare. You avoid that fact that Obama's health tax plan cuts over $700 billion to medicare. If Romney does repeal Obamatax than he also repeals the medicare cuts.

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Lorbee

10:03 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

You see, Karen...this is why I say you are a liberal with their head in the sand. Saying that "Romney barbecued a dog" is as stupid as all of you insisting that Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her front porch as they so enjoyed guffawing over on Saturday night live. These ridiculous accusations are grabbed onto by the pitbull teeth of you seething democrats, and have no basis in truth. Romney earned donations from a man named Malek, who is accused of committing a heinous act of animal cruelty in 1959, (and was later found to be not guilty with another individual admitting to acting alone! How can anyone take you seriously? Good God, can you really be this anxious about this election that you wouldn't even take the time to research what is truth and what is fiction, when people are jobless for years, have lost the bulk of the net worth and are being tossed out of their homes? The same with Palin, who once said that you could actually see some of Russia's landmass from Alaska. This is the problem that people have with democrats. They can't seem to decipher what is really important and what is required of a president. Sad and pathetic that you can turn a blind eye to the completely shameful report card and shady background of obama. Re-read your childish post and IT should make YOU sick in the stomach. What a joke you are, Karen. Spare me.

Malek told the Post he was in no position to stop the crime at the time of the incident.

Karen

7:14 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Lorbee.

Predictable.

When all else fails, hurl insults.

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RosiesDad

10:38 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Lorbee:

You would do better to stick with facts and to avoid ad hominem attacks.
Obama does in fact have a record to run on. 4 million private sector jobs have been created since his policies were put in place. (Counting from April 2009)
Lilly Ledbetter. Health Care Reform. Ended DADT. Supports civil rights for committed gay couples. Got Osama bin Laden and got us out of Iraq. Helped NATO and the Arab League rid the world of Khaddafi at minimal cost to us with no loss of American life.

You make like these things or dislike them. But they form the basis for a record on which Obama will run. But they are certainly not "nothing."

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Paul H

8:31 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

Through May 2012: Obama job gains 0.1 million; unemployment 8.2%.

Health care reform - an enormous tax on the middle class and job killer for small business.

Against gay marriage until it would benefit him politically.

Went to war with Libya on his own authority; never went to Congress.

He has no record especially if you actually look at the big picture.

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Lorbee

10:22 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

If he had a record to run on, he wouldn't have to be pathetically grasping at straws and launching unfounded attacks at Romney first, and now Ryan. I can't wait to see the commercial with Ryan pushing the old lady in the wheelchair off the cliff. In fact, the entire presidency, complete with biden's incredible and outrageous "gaffes" (a kind word) is a comedy of errors. So sad that this is what obama's USA looks like today.

Kathleen Shaver

12:59 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

RosiesDad and Karen have contributed comments that are not only reasoned and factual, but give me hope that there are Americans out there who care about, even feel a responsibility towards, preserving strong social insurance for the unfortunate as well as fairness and equal opportunity for all.

In regards to the "crash and burn" predictions for Medicare, I think that it is interesting to note that the Medicare Advantage Program, designed by like-minded Republicans and their favorite lobbyists, made private insurers and pharmaceutical CEO's richer and cost tax payers $33 billion in overpayments. (Isn't that the opposite of deficit reduction?) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wendell-potter/guess-who-would-benefit-f_b_1568119.html

Rigging the government to make money for the privileged and private corporations (yep, those military spending increases!) is the GOP strategy and why do middle class folks support it at their own expense?

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Karen

2:54 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012

Kathleen, I hardly recognize my country anymore.

Thank you for publically posting your comments and I share your views.

After the manufacturing of divisiveness of the previous administration, i.e., red states/blue states, rich vs poor, etc., perhaps there will come again a day where we are truly the UNITED States of America....

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Lorbee

10:07 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Yes, Kathleen. Karen is just so factual that she believes Romney barbecued a dog. Go and have another glass of Kool Aid. Apparently you have not had enough yet.

Earnest

7:02 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

Republicans create economic mess and increase the national debt. - Democrats are elected to clean up the mess, which requires spending and revenue increases, - Republicans campaign against Democrats by demonizing the spending and taxes that were/are necessary to start cleaning up the Republicans economic mess...... And the two political parties go round and round.

Sorry, this time I'm not buying what the Republicans are selling. The economic mess created on their watch was so massive that no incoming President, no matter what party they ascribed to, could possibly completely clean it up in 31/2 or even 4 years.

Our current President has gotten the train back on the rails with very little if any cooperation from the Republicans that put (our number one goal is to destroy the President) before the United States of America and the American peoples condition. All we have heard from the Republicans is the demonization of the President that the American people elected, and the continued advocacy for policy that has failed time and time again.

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Paul H

8:55 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

Republicans did and do create economic mess, especially when it comes to defense spending. The Democrat answer of using Keynsian economics does not correct the problem.

Democrats do not clean up the mess, they spend even more. Taxes and spending without cuts does not do the job.

Keynesian economics does not and has never fixed anything. The "mess" left by Bush has been made considerably worse under this administration. I do not know where you see that the "train is back on track".

Our deficit is far larger than it has ever been. Spending is out of control. Unemployment is still over 8%.

His first 2 years in office he had control of Congress. It was filibuster proof and he complains that Republicans will not let him get done what he wants to get done. Labeled them the party of "No". Again he had all the votes he needed to pass whatever bill he wanted. Still waiting on a budget.

I agree with you that Republicans do make an economic mess. I disagree when you say that Democrats need to fix it ... blind leading the blind.

Kathleen Shaver

10:17 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

Democrats spend even more? Didn't democratic president Bill Clinton leave a budget surplus? The Republicans took care of that in a hurry. The bloated military budget exists because Republican legislators are busy padding the pockets of military industrialists. Oil companies and huge corporations keep getting tax breaks and more loopholes while the deficit looms larger because the GOP favors lobbyists like those representing the sugar industry.

Remember the SCHIP insurance program that Kennedy and Hatch fought to implement? Republicans excoriated Hatch for asserting that "as a nation, as a society, we have a moral responsibility" to support children who are "being terribly hurt."* President Obama's signing of the CHIP Reauthorization Act in 2009 was crucial in maintaining support for disadvantaged children, especially during the current recession, as many people became unemployed.

Kennedy and Hatch's work together is an example of statesmanship and compromise that has fallen by the wayside. Ideology is the name of the Republican game and it will hurt, not only the poor and minorities, but average Americans across the country.

*http://www.nytimes.com/1997/03/14/us/hatch-joins-kennedy-to-back-a-health-program.html

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Paul H

10:44 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

"Didn't democratic president Bill Clinton leave a budget surplus?" No, he did not. Fiscal year 1994 (still Clinton's budget) had a defecit of over $281 billion per the US Treasuy.

Republicans do spend much to much on defense. No argument here.

Democrats spend much to much on social programs. While I agree there needs to be a social safety net it should be at a much more local level and not at the federal level.

Lyndon Johnson started the War on Poverty and it has done nothing but keep the poor poor. It is a failed policy that creates dependence rather than offers incentive.

It does not matter who is in office They will spend. Even if they raise taxes they do not use it to pay off debt. They create more programs on which to spend it. The federal government is a failure at creating and sticking to a budget. They should read Article 1 section 8 of the Constitution and stick to that only.

Kathleen Shaver

11:01 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

The public debt burden during the presidency of Bill Clinton between 1992 and 2000, fell due in part to decreased militarily spending after Cold War, 1990, 1993 and 1997 budget deals, gridlock between White House and Congress, and increased tax revenue resulting from the Dot-com bubble.

The budget controls instituted in the 1990s successfully restrained fiscal action by the Congress and the President and together with economic growth contributed to the budget surpluses that materialized by the end of the decade. These surpluses led to a decline in the debt held by the public, and from fiscal years 1998 through 2001, the debt-to-GDP measure declined from about 43 percent to about 33 percent.

^ http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-budget-and-deficit-under-clinton/
^ Kessler, Glenn (January 24, 2012). "Fact checking the NBC Florida debate". The Washington Post.
^ Kessler, Glenn (July 1, 2011). "Barbara Boxer's blatant rewriting of history". The Washington Post.
^ Federal Debt: Answers to Frequently Asked Questions: An Upadate - U.S. Government Accountability Office.

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Paul H

11:25 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

Admirable attempt but not quite the whole truth.

Clinton had deficits all 8 years of his presidency. If there ever is a true surplus then the debt would have gone down.

In 2000 he claimed to have a $230B surplus but he borrowed money from:

$152.3B from Social Security
$30.9B from Civil Service Retirement Fund

$18.5B from Federal Supplementary Medical insurance Trust Fund
$15.0B from Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund
$9.0B from the Federal Unemployment Trust Fund
$8.2B from Military Retirement Fund
$3.8B from Transportation Trust Funds
$1.8B from Employee Life Insurance & Retirement fund
$7.0B from others

Total borrowed from off budget funds $246.5B, meaning that his $230B surplus is actually a $16.5B deficit. ($246.5B borrowed - $230B claimed surplus = $16.5B actual deficit).

Funny how accounting works especially when you are only given a part of the story.

Karen

10:47 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Lorbee, really? 10:03 p.m. on a Friday evening you post?

Please take a look at what you've written tomorrow after a good breakfast and some strong coffee.

Until then, I'll have whatever you're having...

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Ego_Death

11:32 am on Monday, August 20, 2012

A viable 3rd party needs to form that is socially tolerant and fiscally conservative. one that does not bow down to special interests and refuses the $ from the lobbyist. Citizens United decision made me lose faith in the supreme court. The republicans stating they would do what they can to make this president fail made me lose faith in congress. I really wish there was a different option. The whole system needs to be re-done.

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